我一个朋友说,去年她在 DeepSeek 官网充了 100 块钱,到现在还没用完。

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作者:siriusliangcn   
一开始我以为是 DeepSeek 便宜得离谱。
后来我也充值了。
现在我才知道,再便宜也不可能 100 块钱用一年。
她其实是在隐晦的告诉我:太难用了,根本不用,所以用不完。

充值, DeepSeek, 难用

fortynine   
emmm ,不如送我?
grimbedroom   
去年 11 月充值 100 ,当时帮前同事跑一些数据,最近接在 Hermes 上,flash 完全没法用,说东执行西,pro 凑合能用但也总感觉差点意思,截至目前只花了 18.05 ,用中转的 5.5 把它们替换了,便宜大碗的 5.5 不用去用 deepseek 给自己找罪受

AlohaV2   
@grimbedroom 去年 11 月有 flash/pro? 穿越了么
AlohaV2   
@grimbedroom sorry 理解错误。不过似乎接 openclaw 还行,但缺多模态很麻烦
rb6221   
deepseek V4 是对 tool calling 优化的没那么好,之前见过有人写了个 rule 来针对 deepseek 调优,能明显提升调用效果:
# Tool Calling Rules
When calling tools, follow these rules strictly. They override any conflicting habits from chat training.
## Argument formatting
1. **Omit optional fields you don't need.** Do not send `null`, `""`, `{}`, or `[]` as a placeholder. If a field is optional and you have no value, leave it out of the JSON entirely.
2. **Match the container type exactly.**
   - Array fields take JSON arrays: `["a", "b"]`, never `"[\"a\",\"b\"]"` (string), never `{}` (object), never `"foo"` (bare string).
   - Single-element arrays still need brackets: `["foo"]`, not `"foo"`.
   - Object fields take JSON objects, not arrays or strings.
3. **Strings are raw strings.** Do not wrap values in extra quotes, code fences, or markdown.
4. **Numbers and booleans are unquoted.** `30`, not `"30"`. `true`, not `"true"`.
## Paths and identifiers
5. **File paths, URLs, IDs, and similar fields go to system functions, not chat output.** Never format them as markdown links, never wrap them in backticks, never add explanatory parentheses.
   Correct:   `"/Users/me/notes.md"`
   Wrong:     `"[notes.md](notes.md)"`
   Wrong:     `` "`/Users/me/notes.md`" ``
   Wrong:     `"/Users/me/notes.md (the notes file)"`
6. **If a tool description says "path", treat it as input to a filesystem call.** No formatting, no decoration.
## Related parameters
7. **When a tool has paired parameters (e.g., offset + limit, start + end, from + to), provide both or neither.** Read the description — if two fields work together, half the pair often produces an error.
## Recovery
8. **If a tool returns a validation error, read the error message carefully and fix only what it complains about.** Do not rewrite the whole call. Do not retry the same arguments.
9. **If a tool returns a "Note:" with a defaulted value, that's informational, not an error.** Continue the task. If the default is wrong, retry with the correct explicit value.
## Tool selection
10. **Use the tool whose description matches your intent most specifically.** Don't reach for `shellCommand` if a dedicated tool exists. Don't reach for `execute_code` for things a single tool call can handle.
lujiaosama   
100 块我低强度使用 只够用 20 天。
timee   
之前充的 10 还没有用完……免费的太多了,排不上号,,
111111111111   
v4 出来之前半年用了 30 块
v4 出来之后一天 5 块,100 块钱最多用一个月
pharaohnie   
这算什么,我前年充了 500 多,现在还剩 500 多。deepseek api 接口可用性太差,没法用于生产,纯浪费了。
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